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Hello to all Patsy Cline fans, I have a great love and respect for her as a performer,
she has been my mentor and inspiration in my music. I am a country music independent
recording artist and have made several recordings of Patsy songs, that I so love, to
me no other will ever compare to sweet Patsy's music, but I want people to hear and
remember her legacy, that is why I send this e-mail out, I am trying to get started
doing tribute performances of Patsy Cline, anyone interested in hearing my music or
booking, please contact me, I would love to hear from others who love her music as much
as I do. again Thanks for your time.
Judy Gardner <judyactivity@yahoo.com>
Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 04:57:05 (CET)
Jimmy wrote:
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"Frankly, when Philip first suggested a March 2006 Grand Opening, I thought this was very
inappropriate for the family as well as the fans. How can you have a gala opening when this
is a time for mourning for many? I am glad the current board did not strive for a March 2006
Grand Opening. So let them delay things to get it right for our gal."
-----
Jimmy, I have to interject here, on behalf of truth and fairness. Remember, I was in that
boardroom. What REALLY happened, was that Philip wanted the soft opening for March 5, with
the GRAND opening in September, in honor of Patsy's birthday. He was emphasizing the need
for the bigger celebration on the more approprate date. AND he knew that much needed to be
done in order to do it right. HE WAS SHOT DOWN VEHEMENTLY. At no time was a hatchet job on
the agenda.
Also, the asbestos issue was supposedly at the first museum site. The new one is purportedly
in great shape, so I think the question that Bernard has pertains to if the new digs are in
such super shape, then why does it take another 6 months or so to "gut it out"? The whole
impetus for moving to the new locale was to eliminate that issue, according to the recent
CPC press releases.
I'm not trying to be petty, but I will step in and give accurate information where and when
it is needed.
Philip was very sensitive to the mourning of March 5. He felt that the soft opening would be
quiet and give respect to the birth of something good on such a horrid, tragic day, and then
have the big celebration later.
Tell me something, please.
When you were there over this last weekend of March 5, what was done for Patsy at 6:20 pm?
Best,
Theresa Shalaby <gerdbaby@yahoo.com>
Thompson Statio, TN USA - Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 00:30:08 (CET)
My name is Greg. I've been listening to Patsy's beautiful voice since her untimely
death in 63. At the time I was 12 years old, I too became a singer amiture. But even
today, 43 years later, I love her music and beautiful voice just as I did as a lad.
God bless you, Patsy and family. I'll always be one of your biggest fans...
Greg Smith <thunderbird464@yahoo.com>
Corning, CA USA - Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 06:54:59 (CET)
Love the site, Per, it gets better and better!! Robyn
Robyn Jones <run2dad2004@yahoo.com>
Syracuse, NY - Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 03:00:09 (CET)
Sean, thanks for sharing this great news about the videos. Now when can I get
down there to see them for myself?
Keep the positive news flowing.
Jimmy Walker
Saturday, March 18, 2006 at 03:40:15 (CET)
Jimmy wrote:
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"Bernard you have told me you are working with a museum firm in the UK. Can you
tell me how a building can be completely gutted in 6 months and ready to be open
for a museum in this time frame? This would include removal of asbestos."
-----
The people I will be working with are mechantronic engineers working on a
mechanism for an existing museum.
As to time scales for conversion of a building.
I can only go by UK standards which vary enormously depending on motivation of
the people working on the project. Six months for the building that was shown in
the Winchester Star (apparently fit to use) does seem a very long time to fit
display cases.
Regards,
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Sharnbrook, UK - Saturday, March 18, 2006 at 00:15:11 (CET)
Bernard, you have told me you are working with a museum firm in the UK. Can you
tell me how a building can be completely gutted in 6 months and ready to be open
for a museum in this time frame? This would include removal of asbestos. At first,
Philip Martin seemed to think it could be done, but later learned maybe that was
not feasible and he delayed it by at least 6 months. I guess he saw obstacles
like the current board is seeing. I would rather wait a few months to have things
done right and not some hatchet job.
Frankly, when Philip first suggested a March 2006 Grand Opening, I thought this
was very inappropriate for the family as well as the fans. How can you have a gala
opening when this is a time for mourning for many? I am glad the current board did
not strive for a March 2006 Grand Opening. So let them delay things to get it
right for our gal.
Jimmy... Pro Patsy.
Jimmy Walker
Lexington, KY - Friday, March 17, 2006 at 23:41:29 (CET)
For everyone who is asking about Patsy's kids. Her daughter Julie and her brother
Randy reside in Nashville. Randy has a low profile life, there is not much heard
about him. He never married or had kids. Julie has 4 kids and her daughter Michelle
and son in law Nathan have 2 kids, Claire and Cole. Her entries as well as Charlie's
are in blue on this page and there should be an email address where you can reach
them. Thanks!
Robyn Jones <run2dad2004@yahoo.com>
Syracuse, NY USA - Friday, March 17, 2006 at 21:05:35 (CET)
http://www.winchesterstar.com/TheWinchesterStar/060317/Area_mall.asp
In September, City Council voted to give Celebrating Patsy Cline Inc. - the
organization creating the museum - $110,000 in seed money, if the group agreed
to stay within Winchester for 25 years. Most of that money is paying Ralph
Appelbaum Associates to design the exhibits for the 7,000-square-foot museum,
Gaynor said.
Seed money. How much fertliser will be needed.
Celebrating Patsy Cline Inc. officials have been shuffling opening dates and
locations while Internet fans boycotted the organization after Philip L. Martin
was removed from the board's presidency.
Shuffling or delaying.
President Judy Sue Huyett-Kempf said she expects the museum that moved from the
2,100-square-foot facility at 48 S. Loudoun St. to the more finished space at 134
N. Loudoun St. to be open sometime in September.
"At this point, we do not have an exact date," she said during a telephone
interview March 6, though the organization's answering machine is advertising
Labor Day weekend.
So the Labor day opening may not be certain. One assumes the Winchester Star
article can be trusted.
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Sharnbrook, UK - Friday, March 17, 2006 at 09:18:38 (CET)
Hi all,
The Opry museum is showing two new videos of our gal! "You're stronger than me" &
"Why can't he be you"! They are just wonderful, gems! Both are full and uncut!
Take care.
ReCliner Sean <rc@reclinerclub.com>
Music City, TN USA - Thursday, March 16, 2006 at 02:12:02 (CET)
Thanks for that, Jared. I will be sure to check that book out!
Helen Smith <helensmith_1999@yahoo.com>
England, United Kingdom - Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 22:54:18 (CET)
Hi All!
Regarding my friend Helen's last post about Barbara Mandrell's story about helping
Patsy across the ice in Iowa on tour, I don't know if any of you have ever read
Barbara's biography "Get to the Heart", but she goes into great detail about that
tour with Patsy, George Jones and Johnny Cash. On that tour, she filled in for
George Jones' steel guitar player and opened up the show for Johnny Cash with her
solo material. She also talks about how she did Patsy's hair everynight before the
shows and how, being a 13 year old child with growing pains, Patsy'd wake her up in
the middle of the night because Barbara would be kicking her in her sleep. Patsy
insisted that Barbara stay in her room to keep watch over her being as how everyone
else on tour partied after each show.
On a Ralph Emery "On The Record with Barbara Mandrell" TNN interview, Barbara said
"I was so blessed as a child performer to have worked with some of my idols. Who else
can say that their claim to fame is that they opened for Johnny Cash, played steel
guitar for George Jones and slept with Patsy Cline!"
Of Patsy Barbara states what a wonderful woman Patsy was to her and states "Patsy
Cline was a true professional, a big hearted woman with a voice like an angel's
trumpet and agile dancer's feet. God gave her a beautiful instrument and she knew
how to use it."
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 17:13:43 (CET)
Information is sought about where Patsy performed during July and August 1958.
Can anyone help with dates and locations?
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Sharnbrook, UK - Tuesday, March 14, 2006 at 10:02:10 (CET)
My granddaughter - 7 year old Skylar Valentin, and I watch the WE movie last night
relating to Ms. Cline's life. Skylar's only question is what are Ms. Cline's children
doing today?
All during the movie, she always asked about the "kids".
Can you shed any light on this for me to tell her?
Regards,
Skip Degan & Skylar Valentin <skipd@nexet.com>
Ruckersville, VA - Sunday, March 12, 2006 at 14:07:46 (CET)
Patsy Cline had a beautiful voice, I still listen to her music. I was wondering if
Charlie is still living, and if so, what is he doing and did he ever remarry? Also, how
are Patsy's and Charlie's children doing, and could you tell me something about them?
Sincerely,
Betty Pataki <katesnanna@sbcglobal.net>
Georgetown, IL USA - Sunday, March 12, 2006 at 05:25:31 (CET)
Hello Folks,
This past weekend in Winchester Charlie brought news that Joyce Blair had passed away.
Joyce was Patsy's neighbor for those new Patsy pals that don't know. He shared a story
about her kindness. She had helped take a money collection for Patsy and Charlie. We
pray for her family. She did seem like a wonderful lady. I always enjoyed her stories
on the bio's. Regards, Sean
ReCliner Sean <rc@reclinerclub.com>
Music City, Tn USA - Saturday, March 11, 2006 at 04:26:11 (CET)
I stumbled across this article about Patsy by Larry Jordan of "Midwest Today" in
June 1998. It is well worth reading. You will probably already know most of it, but
some of the information is less well known. For example:
"Barbara Mandrell, who was only 13 when she toured briefly with Patsy, remembers
being asked by the singer to take her arm and help her walk across an icy parking
lot in Des Moines because she was so afraid of falling and reinjuring herself after
her car crash."
I have not heard about that anywhere else.
http://www.midtod.com/98autumn/patsy.phtml
Helen Smith <helensmith_1999@yahoo.com>
United Kingdom - Friday, March 10, 2006 at 23:32:22 (CET)
A note from my buddy at Rockabilly Honky Tonk Hall of Fame... Jimmy
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"Hey!... Please spread the gospel about our auctions on
cmtauctions.com. We have the Patsy (by
Freeman/Hazen) book signed as one item... The auction benefits
www.spaymemphis.com. THANKS!!! SS"
-----
Jimmy Walker <patsyfan1@aol.com>
Friday, March 10, 2006 at 17:24:37 (CET)
I recently saw the movie "Sweet Dreams" with Jessica Lange on TV and I was wondering
whatever happened to her children Julie and Randy. Also, where is Charlie Dick? Did
he ever re-marry?
Sally Rice <enterprise1826@neo.rr.com>
Salem, OH - Wednesday, March 08, 2006 at 23:37:12 (CET)
Comment: I have a policy not to write anything about Patsy's family at the site,
out of privacy reasons, but Patsy's daughter Julie has volunteered lots of information
in her entries here in the forum over the years, so if you read them you will get answers to
all your questions, I think... Her entries are shown in blue color, so they are
easy to spot, and there are also a couple of entries by Charlie here. /Per
I wanted to take a minute to tell you about Winchester March 2006. About 20 fan club
members were in attendance from all over the U.S. in Patsy’s hometown. We had a
wonderful time reliving old memories and making new ones.
Charlie was able to attend all Patsy related events except for the Jim McCoy Tribute
at the Troubadour Lounge in Berkley Springs, WVA. Joltin’ Jim was under the weather
with a back aliment, but when he found out we were up there he got up and came down
to see us and visit with us for about 20 minutes before we had to head down the hill.
We were late getting there, but were able to enjoy about 90 minutes of karaoke fun.
No, none of us sang.
Would also like to point out the fan club did have a nice spray of long stem roses
at Patsy’s grave.
Anyone interested, this fall will mark the 20th time, our 19th anniversary of fan
club meeting in Winchester, VA. Please contact the fan club for details. APC, PO Box
2236, Winchester, Va 22604. We’re hoping to see a big turn out.
Always,
Jimmy Walker <patsyfan1@aol.com>
Lexington, KY - Wednesday, March 08, 2006 at 18:28:40 (CET)
Just loved the tribute to Patsy, Hawkshaw and Copas on Sunday! It was a dream come
true to hear such a wonderful and deserving tribute. The duet with Copas was fantastic,
and I loved hearing Patsy's gorgeous voice on the commercials! What a gift God bestowed
on Patsy! I just love her! By the way, I turned on CMT and GAC, no mention of the
anniversary of their passing. I also think Stubbs could use a little more enthusiasm
when talking about Patsy on his yearly show. The oldies tribute just blew his away!
Thanks to everyone who shared their vintage and rare Patsy goods that made the show
possible! I will listen every year to be sure!
Pam Underwood <pcuwood@hotmail.com>
Raleigh, NC - Wednesday, March 08, 2006 at 03:35:17 (CET)
Sandra, as to Patsy's height, I said I was sure I'd read that it was Patsy herself
who had said she was 5'5 and a half inches... Well I've found the quote (just couldn't
think where I'd read it the other day!)... It's from the letters to Treva Miller, in
the book "Love Always,Patsy".
Patsy wrote to Treva on the 29th October, 1955, in connection with a letter from Treva
about starting a fan-club up for her. In the letter she tells Treva a bit about herself,
as well as including a photo, she says:
"Enclosed you will find a small picture which I hope you can use. I am 23 yrs of age,
stand 5ft 5 and a half inches, weight 135 lbs, and have brown hair and eyes. My
favourite foods are chicken and spaghetti. Also collect salt and pepper shakers,
and earrings."
Thoroughly enjoyed the internet radio broadcast last night to mark the anniversary of
the crash (it played between 9 and midnight here in the UK), I got goose-bumps hearing
all the "talking" stuff from our gal, wonderful... Thanks to all who made it possible,
a lovely tribute.
Lynda Miller <lynda.miller3@btinternet.com>
Cheshire, UK England - Monday, March 06, 2006 at 11:26:16 (CET)
Remembering Patsy today and always. Sweet Dreams.
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Monday, March 06, 2006 at 01:51:42 (CET)
While I don't know Patsy's dress or boot size, I believe she was taller than 5'5".
I'm 5'2" and don't remember for sure if her shoes were taller than mine or not at
the time of the picture, but look at the difference in height in the picture of
Patsy and Sandra Salling on
this website. She appears much taller to me. Of course,
most everyone appears taller to me. She's the best and an inspiration for all girl
singers. (Present tense intentional.)
Sandra Salling <sandra@sandrasalling.com>
Arlington, TX USA - Sunday, March 05, 2006 at 04:10:00 (CET)
Tim Poole wrote:
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"I've been watching with interest to all the buzz about CPC. No one has asked this
question yet: Are the people on the board of CPC genuinely interested in the memory
of Patsy Cline, or are they on the board so they can gain a name for themselves by
being associated with the long overdue efforts to honor her. Are they all from
Winchester?"
-----
The questions have been asked. And reading the back issues of the Winchester Star
newspaper (the online version) from here in the UK, it is pretty obvious that the
present board are all from Winchester, they do not want fans interfering with their
plans for a tourist attraction with a Patsy theme, and they are using an
internationally renown museum designer to convert a retail outlet building into a
...... Yes, what will it be? A place to cherish a memory, a people moving structured
educational experience, or a tourist attraction with a Patsy theme as a reason for
its existance?
And that is what I deduce from the published newspapers. It gets worse if I look
more deeply.
Interested in the memory? Oh yes, they are interested OK, but maybe not the right
sort of interest.
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Saturday, March 04, 2006 at 18:13:20 (CET)
On Sunday afternoon, from 3:00pm to 6:00pm CST (4:00pm-7:00pm EST), Shawn Nagy's
SuperOldies.com will broadcast a tribute to Patsy Cline, Cowboy Copas, Hawkshaw
Hawkins and Randy Hughes.
http://www.superoldies.com/main.html
The broadcast will feature rare and unreleased tracks, interviews, Patsy commercials,
and all of your favorites.
You will have to download a small playlist file, then open it with a supported player.
Shawn (and I) recommend Winamp:
http://www.winamp.com/player/free.php
Be sure to tune in.
Bill Cox <spam@patsycline.info>
Knoxville, TN USA - Saturday, March 04, 2006 at 15:39:02 (CET)
WOW-Great site!-just found it. It brought tears to my eyes. The comments show just
how much we have all loved Miss Patsy Cline. And how much we've missed her. Her music
has been an inspiration to all of us for so many years. I've been doing her songs on
stage since 1956 (I was 12 then) we're doing a tribute to her in the fall of 2006 with
visual. We need to get behind the efforts to put up the museum. I hope they know what
they're doing getting rid of the man that put the effort into getting it all started.
She's loved in the upper midwest, too!! Did you know she made 102 commercial recordings?
Not including her live performances of some songs that were never recorded except as
live performances? I do 62 from memory and more if there's a few "kick" words. She's
been my life and I'm sure happy to know she affected more than me that way. Let's all
keep her memory with us!
Karen Miller <kmmi65535@aol.com>
Foley, MN USA - Friday, March 03, 2006 at 22:31:25 (CET)
I'm doing a research project on Patsy Cline and I need to know what kind of music
Patsy liked to listen to. As well as what was the most important day of her life and
why. Thank you all so much much whoever responds to this.
Jessica <jchcickadee@aol.com>
Shelby, NC USA - Friday, March 03, 2006 at 15:12:56 (CET)
I've been watching with interest to all the buzz about CPC. No one has asked this
question yet: Are the people on the board of CPC genuinely interested in the memory
of Patsy Cline, or are they on the board so they can gain a name for themselves by
being associated with the long overdue efforts to honor her. Are they all from
Winchester? If so, Winchester never honored her in her lifetime and it's taken 43 yrs
for them to move this far to honor her. It seems to me that CPC should be packed with
TRUE Patsy Cline supporters. Also, it's been a while since Julie or Charlie posted.
Tim Poole <Tappster4real@aol.com>
St. Charles, IL USA - Friday, March 03, 2006 at 14:27:32 (CET)
Steve,I read that Patsy herself is quoted as saying she was 5' 5 and a half. As to
dress size and shoe size, can't help you there, I'm afraid.
Lynda Miller <lynda.miller3@btinternet.com>
UK - Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 20:19:37 (CET)
Hello Everyone;
Can anyone tell me what Patsy's dress size was, as well as boot size? Also, how tall
was she? I would appreciate any answers anyone might have. I have collected some
memorabilia and want to validate.
Steve <loanasap@comcast.net>
Old Hickory, TN - Tuesday, February 28, 2006 at 00:54:41 (CET)
Hello Patsy Pals,
I bought a DVD from Amazon.co.uk called "Country Ladies" and it arrived this morning.
It has got Dottie West on it singing a Patsy Cline Medley: "Crazy" / "I Fall To Pieces"
/ "Sweet Dreams" / "Crazy". It is very good, especially for people like me who want
to see more of Patsy’s friend Dottie West. It says on the case that it is "PAL All
Regions", but on Amazon it says that it is "Region 2". I think that is probably a
typing error on the part of Amazon although I don’t know what "PAL" means on the case.
Anyway, it’s £12.99 and worth taking a look at.
Next, a question: "How Can I Face Tomorrow" is one of my favourite songs. It grabs me
every time I hear it. Am I right in thinking there is only one recorded version of it?
Helen <helensmith_1999@yahoo.co.uk>
England, UK - Thursday, February 23, 2006 at 20:38:53 (CET)
Comment: PAL is the Western European TV standard, as opposed to NTSC in the states
and Secam in Eastern Europe. Yes, there is only one Patsy Cline recording of "How
can I face tomorrow", but there are actually two versions, one with Patsy's overdubbed
harmony vocals, and one without. According to the All-Music Guide (AMG) the song is
also recorded by Tennessee Rhythm Riders on an album called "Little Red Wagon" from
1999. /Per
I have listened to and read anything and everything I could ever get my hands
on about Patsy Cline!!! My question is this; after her death, what happened
to her husband Charle Dick and her children Julie and Randy? Are they all still
alive and how did Charlie keep Patsy's memory alive for the kids? Any information
would be greatly appreciated!!!!
Sharie McCuen <armymom12000@yahoo.com>
Hillsboro, Il USA - Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 00:39:18 (CET)
Just thought I'd stop by and wish everyone a happy belated b day. Love the site,
Per!
Take care,
Robyn <run2dad2004@yahoo.com>
Syracuse, NY USA - Sunday, February 19, 2006 at 21:17:12 (CET)
I got a nice surprise when I got home today and saw a catalog for Country Music
Greats laying on the table. Our Patsy was on the cover. They used the photo from
Bill Cox's main website page. The catalog features music by the legends of
country music.
Patsy is the featured artists esp. for "Sweet Dreams Still". I checked the online
site and it has not been updated. Maybe soon she will be shown on the website,
www.countrymusicgreats.com.
Always Jimmy W
Charter member of APC
Jimmy Walker <patsyfan1@aol.com>
Lexington, Ky - Thursday, February 16, 2006 at 04:15:25 (CET)
"She' got you" is an option in the Washington Post's poll for the best song
for St Valentine's Day regrets. It needs your votes so go to
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/artsandliving/source/features/2006/antivalentine/index.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/8vkuu
and vote
Regards,
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Sharnbrook, UK - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 at 11:49:12 (CET)
Hi all!
Just came across this interesting tidbit on the web...
Someone wrote into the "Ask Carly" forum at Carly Simon.Com about Patsy, asking
what she thought of the efforts to just now form a museum in her memory forty
years after her death, and asked what she thought of Patsy's contribution to
music as a woman.
Carly replied that while she certainly knew Patsy's music, she didn't know much
about her life and "faults herself for that". She goes on to say that Patsy was
"a trailblazer and that all women in that respect have a special power."
Oh Carly. Read Patsy's bio. Listen to her music. You two have a few things in
common. You'll probably think her songs are about you... Don't you? Don't you?
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Tuesday, February 14, 2006 at 06:55:51 (CET)
Patsy is with God, but have always wished he would have let her stay with us.
I miss her so much! She gave us and mostly me so much with her music. God, I
wish I would have met her. She was and still is a great, kind and loving woman.
And thank God she has kids that she still lives threw. All I can say to her kids
is I loved her and her music and thanks for sharing her with me!
Larry Corria <larrycorria@yahoo.com>
Sioux Falls, Sd USA - Sunday, February 12, 2006 at 17:10:27 (CET)
Hello all,
Those are some great words, Helen! Let's channel shall we... Pro-Patsy, period.
Recliner Sean <rc@reclinerclub.com>
Music City, TN USA - Friday, February 10, 2006 at 17:12:20 (CET)
Much has been written about the actions of Celebrating Patsy Cline, Inc and
perhaps the time has come to channel our energies into honouring Patsy’s memory
in other ways. Before we do that, though, I want to have my say about what has
happened. I have read things on this forum that express my opinion better than
I ever could, but as a fan, I want to write something myself.
I am very sorry that Philip Martin is no longer President of CPC because he has
achieved so much for it. He was passionate about making a success of CPC and his
dismissal is a loss that will be felt by all those who care about Patsy. With
Philip at the helm, CPC held so much promise. The museum and diner were fitting
tributes to Patsy, what a shame that all the excitement and optimism that went
with these plans has been squandered.
I enjoyed being involved with CPC because I felt that I was playing a part in
keeping Patsy’s memory alive. Her music has brought me years of comfort and by
supporting CPC I felt as though I was giving her something in return. I hope
other fans will know what I mean. I think most fans are asking themselves the
same question in the post-CPC era: what would Patsy think about these unfortunate
events and wasted opportunities? The answer to this question is best summed up
in the graphic that Jared Vaughn made.
If Patsy was here, though, she would be so proud of fans such as Philip Martin,
who showed a spirited devotion to her and I hope we hear more from him. Bill Cox
and Per Jonsson’s websites are, as Bernard Green described them, museums in their
own right. We must always remember that the love of family and loyal fans will
do more to preserve a legacy than anything over burdened with administration
and politics ever will.
Helen Smith <helensmith_1999@yahoo.com>
England, UK - Thursday, February 09, 2006 at 17:43:43 (CET)
The concerns about the safety and care of the items loaned and donated to
Celebrating Patsy Cline, Inc. appear to have been well founded. Therefore I
can understand why fans and admirers will be reluctant to even consider any
further loans or donations until the museum and/or Celebrating Patsy Cline, Inc.
can show and prove that all items that they still have are being properly
cared for.
But Celebrating Patsy Cline, Inc. is going ahead with a building conversion
and it will have a public image connected with Patsy Cline. While donating items
to the museum may have to remain on hold for a while, there are other ways the
fan community can help. Help create the true public image.
For example the name of the museum. The fans can influence that. Personally, after
all the problems and bad feelings from the town to its famous rebel teenager,
I feel Winchester's Museum or similar is in-appropriate, so I would suggest
something like "Today Tomorrow and Forever", because no matter what people do or
say, Patsy will be here Today Tomorrow and Forever.
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Sharnbrook, UK - Monday, February 06, 2006 at 11:36:47 (CET)
HA! Good Call, Bill Cox on the "Faded Love" question below. I would have never
thought of the cast album in a million years. That just goes to show you that
you truly are "Mr. All Things PC!"
HA! And to think that I thought Jeff was talking about a GUY (I didn't even see
where he wrote "female") named Louis. Not Louise. Wow.
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Thursday, February 02, 2006 at 05:43:49 (CET)
The recording being referred to in the post below is probably from the Cast
Recording of "Always Patsy Cline" where Tere Myers as "Louise" is reading one
of Patsy's letters while Mandy Barnett as "Patsy" sings "Faded Love"
Bill Cox <spam@patsycline.info>
Knoxville, TN USA - Thursday, February 02, 2006 at 01:02:37 (CET)
Hi Per & all!
In the "Faded Love" post made by Jeff below, I believe he is referring to "As I
look at the letters that YOU wrote to me... it's YOU that I am thinking of..."
"You" - not "Louis" or "Louie". It just might be his interpretation of how she
says "you"... "It was in the Spring time that Louis said good-bye..." Not Louis,
Jeff. You. She's talking to you ;-) haha.
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Wednesday, February 01, 2006 at 07:13:10 (CET)
Does anyone know if Patsy went through different stages of her music? I am
doing a project on her for a college class and I need to know if she had three
different phases or not. I am a big fan of her music, but I can't think of
any phases she might have gone through. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Megan <davidson.222@osu.edu>
Powell, OH USA - Tuesday, January 31, 2006 at 03:30:18 (CET)
Hi, I am listening to Patsy singing "Faded Love" and there is a female named
Louis reading the letter. Can you please tell me who this lady is? Thanks, Jeff
Jeff Khan <khan3@dodo.com.au>
Australia - Tuesday, January 31, 2006 at 01:15:49 (CET)
Comment: A female named Louis? Where? /Per
Does anyone have a bootleg copy of Patsy's rare radio transcript where she
sang "Stay A Little Longer"?
Alan Cofer <DAlanCofer@yahoo.com>
Tennessee - Sunday, January 29, 2006 at 14:47:21 (CET)
I had that thought myself. But the lady is sure it was a Patsy song, but as you
say, some of the songs of those days were sung by many artists.
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Sharn Nook, UK - Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 12:21:18 (CET)
Hey Bernard! What do you want to bet it was Kay Starr or Jo Stafford? I get
questions about their songs being Patsy's from time to time. Spin Ann a few
Starr or Stafford greatest hits, see what happens, maybe it'll work! LOL
Lisa, The Homesick Texan <spam@patsified.com>
Tuesday, January 24, 2006 at 21:47:05 (CET)
Jimmy, could it have been one of the tapes or transcription discs from her
first broadcasts from W-INC if these were recorded at the time.
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Sharn Nook, UK - Tuesday, January 24, 2006 at 13:57:58 (CET)
Bernard, I doubt Patsy did any Army shows during WWII. She was only known in
the Winchester area at that time. During the 60's she did some Army recruitment
transcriptions such as Take 5 and Country Style USA. Some of these recordings
can be found on Live Vol. 2.
Always,
Jimmy Walker <patsyfan1@aol.com>
Tuesday, January 24, 2006 at 02:40:34 (CET)
Does anyone know if Patsy Cline recorded any material for the armed forces in
World War 2. She would have been very young, but with her determination anything
is possible. Could a Patsy Cline track have been played in a hospital in the UK
where American soldiers wounded in France were being treated?
Ann, who was nursing in a hospital, recalls a very badly wounded soldier being
encouraged to fight to recover by a female singer who she believes was Patsy
Cline. She is very sure that it was a record and not a radio broadcast, as the
same song was played many times. The certian knowledge of the title is one of
the things that has faded from Ann's memory.
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Sharnbrook, UK - Monday, January 23, 2006 at 12:21:02 (CET)
I love Patsy Cline. I have won several karaoke contests singing her songs.
There is no one in this world that has a voice as smooth as hers, I just sit
in my chair, close my eyes when she's singing, and visualize how much I would
have loved to have met her. I know the words to every song she sang. She inspires
me to keep on singing, and to go for my dreams.
Janie Williams <nana2610@bellsouth.net>
Delco, NC USA - Monday, January 23, 2006 at 02:19:51 (CET)
The second most important day in her life (other than September 8, 1932) is
January 21, 1957 - 49 years ago today the nation first heard the best singer
on the face of the earth on Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts television program.
Here's to our Patsy!
"We're always Walkin' After Midnight searchin' for you..."
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Saturday, January 21, 2006 at 08:11:35 (CET)
Dear Friends, thanks a whole lot for giving me the information that I requested.
You are a blessing to me, and you're always there when I need you. God Bless YOU
All, The Patsy Cline Fan Club.
Mark Ison <mark121275@hotmail.com>
Metamora, In USA - Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 20:52:28 (CET)
Came across this site by accident. I am a great fan of Patsy Cline, as was my
mother before me. I have her to thank for introducing me to Patsy's music, I
havent looked back since... Eternally yours,
Mags <mooneym@hotmail.co.uk>
Greenock, Scotland - Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 20:12:07 (CET)
Hi, I'm italian girl and I love Patsy very much... Her voice was beautiful...
Each time I listen her songs I feel like an angel cause she bring me up to the
sky...
Marzia <maraemarzia@libero.it>
Fermo, Italy - Wednesday, January 18, 2006 at 05:22:40 (CET)
Love the site. Has anyone heard from Julie?
Robyn
Syracuse, Ny usa - Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 03:08:46 (CET)
Just a quick note. Amber Miller is offline. The photo from her collection is
a scan of a picture from a book or such. Francis Nunez is deceased. His estate
was sold or auctioned off. I don't think the family new about the treasure of
his photos. When I last heard from them they didn't know where the negatives
were.
Always,
Jimmy Walker <patsyfan1@aol.com>
Lexington, KY - Sunday, January 15, 2006 at 16:01:09 (CET)
My mom and I enjoyed Patsy Cline, she was always our favorite. Love, Debbie
Debbie Rose <debro1951@yahoo.com>
Woodbine, Ky USA - Sunday, January 15, 2006 at 04:06:13 (CET)
Hi Per, (and anyone else who may be able to help out)
This is Brad, I called Mildred Keith last week, to see how much a couple more
copies of Patsy's last photo are, so I ordered a few, and got them a few days
ago.
I read on your site, that there's "that other last picture" of Patsy, you can
see it here, (the first photo)
http://www.patsyclinetribute.com/lastpics.htm
I would like to get a copy, and I read that photo is courtesy of Amber Miller,
could you give me her email, I would love to get an actual 8x10 of that pic,
and thought maybe she could make me one, or put me in contact with Francis.
Thanks,
Brad <billanderson1fan@yahoo.com>
VA USA - Thursday, January 12, 2006 at 22:03:04 (CET)
Dear friends, I would like for someone to give me information on how I could
contact Mel Dick, it is very important to me. I would like to say I am very
sorry about the recent dissapointments. My prayers are with our fan club, Patsy's
family, The Greatest Legacy. God Bless all of you, and I Love You.
Mark Ison <mark121275@hotmail.com>
Metamora, In USA - Wednesday, January 11, 2006 at 20:27:32 (CET)
I love Patsy Cline and I am VERY glad that I found this website!!!
Justin David Lord <patsy_cline_valentine@yahoo.com>
Baskin, LA USA - Tuesday, January 10, 2006 at 04:24:58 (CET)
Per and all, can any of you tell me whether or not Betty Lacy is still alive?
Lost contact with her many years ago due to her declining health.
Alan Cofer <DAlanCofer@yahoo.com>
Tennessee - Thursday, January 05, 2006 at 01:16:47 (CET)
Hi there. I am searching around now, after doing my family tree, and have
discovered that my great uncle dated Patsy briefly before she became famous.
I believe she was singing at Rainbow Road at the time. Does anyone have any
information about Jimmy Atkins. He later died in the war.
Jennifer <jstbnjen@msn.com>
Sperryville, Va USA - Tuesday, January 03, 2006 at 22:15:30 (CET)
I just wanted to let everyone in the Myrtle Beach area know that Gail Bliss will
be working her magic once again in a production of "A Closer Walk With Patsy Cline"
at the Alabama Theater on January 15 and 16, 2006. Contact the theater for tickets.
I will be playing fiddle and tic tac bass. I have had the good fortune of
performing in over 3000 Patsy Cline tribute shows and love the folks that always
come out to see them.
Mark Baczynski <markthomas69@msn.com>
Millersville, TN USA - Tuesday, January 03, 2006 at 03:57:30 (CET)
I'm a very big fan of Patsy Cline, and I have only 2 CDs of hers and listen to
them every day, and wish I could have met her, but I was not born at the time of
her death.
Linda Cook <linda_cook1964@hotmail.com>
Gastonia, NC United States - Monday, January 02, 2006 at 16:58:08 (CET)
Hi Per and all Patsy Cline Fans. Hope everyone had a very nice Christmas.
On your joint statement as to what has happened recently within Celebrating Patsy
Cline, you are more then welcome to add "Love Always, Patsy" to the list, and as
I live within 100 miles of Patsy's home in Winchester, I'd be happy to help in
any way I could.
Sincerely, J T Smith Jr
John <lostinthefifties@gmail.com>
Waynesboro, Va USA - Monday, December 26, 2005 at 16:50:37 (CET)
Have admired Patsy's music for some time now. Took my kids to the show once in
South Carolina, I think the show out of Canada; a great show. I'm looking for
sources that I might locate some video as well as MP3 of Patsy. Anyone have
any recorded interviews of Patsy?
Not many people today have ever heard her voice other than through her songs.
Lends a whole new meaning to knowing her and her music.
Please send any info to me at marine@usdol.net
I would certainly appreciate it.
Paul D. Williams <Marine@usdol.net>
Glasgow, KY USA - Monday, December 26, 2005 at 12:58:57 (CET)
Hi Per...
Wishing you and all a nice Xmas and New Year 2006!!!
Keep the Patsy Memory alive!!!!
Jacki
Canada - Saturday, December 24, 2005 at 18:03:19 (CET)
Hello Patsy Fans,
Well, I can honestly say that Mom Hensley would definitely NOT BE SURPRISED as
to what has happened with CPC. When I met her and visited with her for over two
hours at her kitchen table in May, 1994, one of the things she told my wife and
I was that Patsy had never had the help that she needed from her hometown during
her lifetime. Mom Hensley asked, "Didn't y'all cross the tracks to get to my
house?" I said, "Yes, Mam." She said, "Well, your on the WRONG SIDE OF THE
TRACKS!" and we all laughed about it. She told us that's what people thought of
Patsy and their family during Patsy's lifetime. This was Mom Hensley's attitude
with the town of Winchester in trying to commercialize on Patsy AFTER her death.
Mom Hensley asked us, "Where were all these people when Patsy needed them?" When
Patsy's father left the family, Mom Hensley went to the Salvation Army and the
Red Cross for help, but they said they couldn't help them because it wasn't a
natural disaster! That's why Patsy dropped out of school to go to work was to
help support the family. Mom Hensley told Patsy that, "No, your not going to drop
out of school, your going to graduate." Patsy told her mother that, "Mother, it's
the only way we're going to make it, you've got to have help." Mom Hensley said
she insisted on Patsy staying in school but Patsy would have none of it. That
tells you what kind of heart Patsy Cline had. Patsy was always willing to help
others out. Especially those less fortunate.
Patsy did have some help from a select "few" of her "own people." Bill Peer being
one of them that helped her out in her early career. As Jesus said in Luke 4:24
And he said, "Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country."
And Patsy Cline was a prophet of Country Music! I think that about sums it up.
This is all very depressing as to what has happened, but you know what, we need
to concentrate on the positive and on Patsy and her legacy. I can promise you,
if Patsy could see what was going on right now, she'd be laughing her head off
saying, "Well, Hoss, that's about right." This certainly wouldn't surprise Patsy.
Patsy's legacy lives and breathes with every beathe of HER MUSIC. That and the
lovely family she left behind on this earth, that's HER LEGACY! I commend each
and every one of you who have fought the fight for Patsy and I encourage everyone
to keep up the good fight! This isn't the end and it never will be. I hope that
one day we can see a museum for Patsy, but even if we don't, you can't "contain"
Patsy Cline, she couldn't be kept in a box in her life time and she still can't
be kept in a box!
I think it would be a dream come true to see all of Patsy's
costumes and affects to be housed on display for all the world to see, these
would be things to get a little closer for us. Patsy was full of spirit and that
spirit lives on, it's eternal! "Death cannot kill what never dies!" II Corinthians
5:8b "To be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." Patsy Cline
was a Christian and that's where she's at today is with Jesus in heaven singing
in THE CHOIR! Merry CHRISTmas and a Happy New Year to all! We've got to "keep
telling them, Hoss!"
Troyce Hendricks <troyce1@bellsouth.net>
Minden, LA USA - Saturday, December 24, 2005 at 04:21:24 (CET)
OK, so CPC screwed up again. It's time to move past them and get on with the the
real reason all of us are here... honoring the legend of the greatest female
voice of our time or anytime, Patsy Cline. So the museum is not in Winchester.
Big deal. The real museum is in our hearts when we put on her CDs and hear that
incredible voice. I still get goose bumps when I hear her. I, for one, do not
need a dusty shelf full of her stuff. Her legacy lives on in all of us. But if
you do need or want one, I'm not the one to tell you not to do it. I'd support
it 100%. Patsy Rules.
Tim Poole <Tappster4real@aol.com>
St. Charles, IL USA - Friday, December 23, 2005 at 06:07:32 (CET)
In regards to my last post,
My apologies to Mr. Madgan for imposing on his true intentions as others have
written to tell me that he is a true Patsy Cline fan and wants nothing more than
to see Patsy Cline honored with a museum in Winchester.
("You're alright - anybody that will stand up FOR the Cline is alright...")
However, I still disagree with his point that Philip should not take action
against CPC. While I too would like nothing more than to see Patsy Cline honored
with a museum, I do not feel that an organization such as CPC should be affiliated
with such. Patsy Cline fought for what she saw was right in her lifetime and
helped/encouraged others along the way. She wasn't into walking on other people
in the way that CPC walked on Philip Martin. That, too, is part of the legacy.
I cannot comprehend why anyone would fail to see such a valid point at this time
regarding this matter.
My apologies also to the fans in Winchester who are true Patsifans at heart
(sometimes we don't think before we speak...). It's just that, from mine and many
others viewpoint, FORTY YEARS is WAY too long to honor a star of Patsy Cline's
caliber. Such an honor should have been given to her long ago.
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Thursday, December 22, 2005 at 21:54:51 (CET)
I can understand Jared's reading of the letter from "Doc" Magadan, but I have met
"Doc" Magadan, and a finer gentleman would be hard to find. He is probably the most
ardent fan of Patsy in Winchester and his drug store has a mini-museum to Patsy.
Of all the people we met in Winchester (June 2002) he was the warmest and most
welcoming person. We walked into Gaunt's and said we were there because of Patsy,
and we were made welcome, very welcome, even though we were delaying his work.
Bernard Green
Sharnbrook, UK - Thursday, December 22, 2005 at 20:37:23 (CET)
In the letter below, from Harold Madagan, owner of Gaunt's Drug Store to Philip
Martin, Mr. Madagan states:
"Philip, as a friend, I strongly urge you to take no rebuttal action to your removal
as President of CPC because it will only hurt my dream for the "Patsy Cline Museum"
in my hometown. May we forever be friends and have warm memories of Patsy Cline always."
From an outsider who has never met Mr. Madagan, I personally read this as "please
don't take action against CPC because without a PC museum, it will hurt our
commerce/tourism's potential" Being the person that I am, I just don't have much use
for that, not only because of my opinion of how Winchester uses Patsy Cline, but
also because people who fail to stand up for what is what is right (INTEGRITY - my
favorite word in this boycott/fight) don't impress me.
Let me just go on record as saying that Winchester, Virginia had forty plus years
- COUNT 'EM! FORTY! - to erect a museum in honor of its famous daughter. If Hilda
Hensley was around, I don't believe she'd have much use for CPC's efforts because
of how she felt on the subject of how Winchester treated Patsy in life and
posthumously. In fact, it took them many moons just to even agree to name a street
after her because of how so many people felt about her. It's funny how a movie about
someone's life is made and all of a sudden, with the growth of tourism, EVERYBODY
back home in Winchester LOVES Patsy Cline.
It took an Philip Martin and other outsiders to get the ball rolling because they
see the dream of having a museum in her honor as true Patsifans - NOT as Chamber
of Commerce members. I believe Mr. Martin and a few others efforts to lead and
support this organization came with honest and heartfelt intentions with the
perspective of true fans who wanted to see Patsy Cline immortalized. Obviously,
Patsy doesn't want to be immortalized in her home town - a town that considered her
"a loose woman" just because she had personality and a dream.
Earlier this week I posted a quote I found in a rare book that quoted Patsy as
saying "Here's to those who wish me well, cause those who don't will burn in hell."
I believe in karma and that "what comes around goes around". Patsy Cline was
snubbed by Winchester as an aspiring singer and now its HER turn to do the snubbing.
She's not going to let anybody use her name and legacy for their own benefit - not
even this reformed CPC. She might've been a giving person, but she sure as heck
didn't let anybody walk on her back and take advantage of her.
I've been to Winchester. As a kid growing up, I wanted to see where Patsy Cline grew
up. I've also been to Nashville, where she became the true star that she aspired to
be. When I drive by her house on Nella Drive or walk into the Ryman Auditorium, I
truly feel that sense of awe and I'm haunted by her legacy.
After all this, museum or not, I don't think I'll ever go to Winchester and be
haunted by anything but the greed of people who overthrew outside goodness with
the best intentions (aka Philip Martin and other former members). When I go to
Winchester, I'll only see it as a town who fakes loving someone they hated for
so long just to benefit from her legacy.
Promoting Commerce and Celebrating a Legacy are two totally different extremes.
Your Hoss,
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Thursday, December 22, 2005 at 09:11:15 (CET)
Please read in the whole segment as submitted to us from Mark Willix.
Thanks, Mark, and keep fighting the good fight.
This is sad, CPC has blown one HUGE chance to help Patsy.
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Celebrating Patsy Cline, Inc. "Pulls Out" from Participating in First Night Winchester!!!
December 21, 2005
Sandy Snyder, the Director of First Night Winchester said "I was shocked when I
got word from Karen Helm and Phil Hunter that CPC was "pulling out". I reminded
them that 5,000-6,000 people in the downtown for that evening would give tremendous
exposure to CPC. They said they wanted to concentrate on the renovation. I told them
they should have some activities for 5 hours New Year's Eve night even if some
construction is in progress. The venues Philip created and submitted for the Program
are terrific! It is such a great opportunity for public exposure. Karen said she
wasn't aware it had been decided. I reminded her of the email we all got from Philip
Martin on October 30.
The following are Email messages sent on October 30 and November 21, 2005 from Philip
Martin to Celebrating Patsy Cline, Inc. Board of Directors and Committee Chairs:
From: Philip Martin [mailto:pmartin@celebratingpatsycline.org ]
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:23 PM
To: Teresa Bowers; Mike McCormick; "Hog" Robertson; Christopher Williams; Ray Frantz; Brent Woodall; Chuck Peterson; J.D. Thompson (E-mail); Jerry Kerr; Jim Burton; JudySue Huyett-Kempf; Karen Helm; Lynda Tyler; Mike Noel; Phil Hunter; Philip Martin; Ron Hottle; Theresa Shalaby (E-mail)
Cc: Donna Martin; Sheila Marie
Subject: "First Night" Winchester
I was contacted by Sandy Snyder, the Director of First Night Winchester about CPC offering the Museum facility as one of the venues for the events on New Year's Eve. Due to the tight time frame to get schedule information to the printer, I made an "executive" decision (no CPC funds involved) and agreed to have the Patsy Cline Museum as a part of the evening's festivities.
By being one of the primary event venues on December 31, there will be several benefits to CPC: (1) the public will become much more aware of the location of the Museum, (2) possible media coverage, (3) we will be viewed as an Old Town "player", (4) opportunity to "open" our temporary Gift Shop, (5) kick off our 2006 Membership Drive, and (6) usher in the New Year together with our CPC leadership colleagues and friends.
I had to submit a Schedule of Events "on the spot" and made up the following:
Patsy Cline Museum
48 South Loudoun Street
7:00pm - 7:45pm: Performance of Patsy Cline Songs and Tribute to the Legendary Country Music Star
8:00pm - 8:45pm: "Patsy Cline" Karaoke Performances (prizes awarded for best singers - voted by the audience)
9:00pm - 9:45pm: Patsy Cline "Trivia" Contest with Prizes (3 age groups)
10:00pm - 11:00pm: "Sweet Dreams Still" Showing (features rare clips of Patsy Cline's earliest TV performances up through her final televised appearance)
I need someone to volunteer to be the Team Captain for organizing and overseeing this activity plus 4-5 individuals to work on the Team as well as "work" the event that evening. This "First Night" event has a lot of potential value to CPC. I hope you will plan now to be a part of it.
Regards,
Philip
From: Philip Martin [mailto:pmartin@celebratingpatsycline.org ]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:35 AM
To: Sheila Marie; Karen Helm; Jerry Kerr; Chuck Peterson; Mel Dick; J.D. Thompson; Jim Burton; Phil Hunter; JudySue Huyett-Kempf; Philip Martin; Ray Frantz; Teresa Bowers; "Hog" Robertson; Warren Hofstra; Steve and Kim Hinze; Mark Willix; Christopher Williams
Subject: "First Night Winchester" Event at the Patsy Cline Museum
We need to form a planning Committee for our activities during "First Night Winchester" on New Year's Eve. I have listed below the various activities that will take place at the Museum during "First Night Winchester"
* I need to hear back on who will volunteer to be the Team Leader
Here are some of my initial thoughts, questions, and ideas:
Activity 1:
Sheila Marie has graciously agreed to perform her "Tribute to Patsy Cline"....(Sheila: welcome to TeamPatsy...CPC and our Museum effort)
Activity 2:
Overseeing the Karaoke Contest: In order to get contestants, don't we need to promote it? How? Over WINC, on Cable Talk; on Q102, Newspaper? If this is too difficult for the value received ("Cost-Benefit" analysis) , e.g. not worth it for a brief venue on First Night, I suggest (a) Sheila Marie performing a second time (b) show "Sweet Dreams Still" (c) other ideas...Let's not make this too complicated and cease to be fun for everyone.... I welcome your thoughts and need your input.
Activity 3:
Trivia Contest: Lisa and Bill: will you develop questions and answers?
What format do you envision? Participants arrive and get a sheet of paper? Oral or written? Ask 15-20 question....Score the answers? Announce the Winners...Give Prizes
Activity 4:
Show documentary "Sweet Dreams Still"
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Miscellaneous Items:
1. Consider selling some item(s) such as: Popcorn (Phil Hunter: investigate renting a popcorn machine cart)...Hot Chocolate....homemade brownies?
2. Set up Gift Shop merchandise (t-shirts; new sweat shirts; books, potato chip tins, etc.)
3. Need a large projection Screen (who can provide?)
4. LCD projector for showing movie: (Philip and Donna to provide)
5. Laptop with DVD player for showing movie: (Warren to provide)
6. Need Large speakers connected to laptop for Movie (Sheila/Phil H/Warren to figure out)
7. Prizes: Suggest getting local merchants to provide gift coupons, baskets, dinners, etc. etc.
8. Membership Solicitation and Database Forms
9. Need sound system (Sheila Marie and Phil H) for all Activities
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These plans were already in place and there were no less than 6 volunteers, at least two of whom were from out of state, planning to staff the event. Plans were still in place for CPC's involvement when Philip Martin was voted out of the organization by three rogue CPC Board Members. CPC says the organization shared a different vision from Mr. Martin as an explanation for his sudden dismissal. Supporters and most CPC Board members were never given an explanation but the consensus has become among those supporters that CPC simply wanted to keep the museum Winchester specific. Now it seems that CPC doesn't care to do that either. It seems odd then that Karen Helm, CPC's Secretary/Treasurer, who is also the Executive Director of Old Town Winchester Development Board would not seize the opportunity to remain involved in the First Night event. Not withstanding her involvement with CPC, if a person's job function by design is to lead the effort of promoting activities in Old Town Winchester, they should certainly be encouraging every area organization and business possible to be involved in the event. Especially an organization for which she serves as a board member. Patsy Cline fans have been questioning for weeks since the removal of Mr. Martin just what CPC's vision is. Now it seems Winchester's city leaders should also be questioning the leadership in charge of The Old Town Winchester Development Board.
Theresa Shalaby <gerdbaby@yahoo.com>
Nashville, TN USA - Wednesday, December 21, 2005 at 20:36:26 (CET)
Philip Martin shares this letter he received today from "Doc" Madagan, owner of Gaunt's Drug Store.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Philip Martin
FROM: Harold "Doc" Madagan
DATE: December 20, 2005
RE: Gaunt's Drug Store and CPC
First of all, I was saddened to read that the Board of Directors of Celebrating Patsy Cline, Inc. had voted for your removal as President. I recognized your involvement, leadership, and genuine enthusiasm for the project and thought we were finally on track to the opening of a museum for Patsy Cline in my lifetime. Somehow and somewhere a battle of personalities and the future direction of CPC took a bitter turn in the road, and the Board of Directors voted on November 30, 2005, for your removal as President.
My sincere thanks for your involvement and contributions to the organization, and I know deep in my heart that you created a positive impact for the future success of a museum. Now that the situation is as such, I must rescind my verbal agreement with you to give CPC the "first right of refusal" on the purchase of Gaunt's Drug Store and Collectibles for the final home to be called the "Patsy Cline Museum".
Philip, as a friend, I strongly urge you to take no rebuttal action to your removal as President of CPC because it will only hurt my dream for the "Patsy Cline Museum" in my hometown. May we forever be friends and have warm memories of Patsy Cline always.
Wishing you and your family a blessed Christmas,
Harold F. Madagan, Jr., "Doc"
Owner/Pharmacist
--------------------
Another sad blow, but as I've said, CPC will now determine its own fate.
Way to go, CPC.
Theresa Shalaby <gerdbaby@yahoo.com>
Nashville, TN USA - Wednesday, December 21, 2005 at 19:41:46 (CET)
Carrie wrote ""I think what CPC has done is terrible, are they forgetting that
we are here for Patsy? ""
From my reading of the various information I do not now believe CPC was ever
there for Patsy, just the opposite, Patsy and her fans were there for them to
gain from.
Bernard Green
Sharnbrook, UK - Wednesday, December 21, 2005 at 17:26:36 (CET)
I think what CPC has done is terrible, are they forgetting that we are here for
Patsy? Philip Martin has accomplished alot for Patsy and had he remained the
president he would have accomplished alot more, CPC will soon realize the enormity
of their mistake if they haven't already. Mr. Martin, if you are reading this,
I told you before at the Kent Street dedication that I wanted to help the fan
club somehow, well the fan club has let you and all of us down, but more
importantly they have let Patsy down. So I think that we should all get together
and form a new fan club that will focus on what's important, our love and
dedication to this great woman we all admire. So Mr. Martin, let me know if I
can do anything, good luck.
Carrie <c_aubin18@yahoo.com>
Winchester, Va USA - Tuesday, December 20, 2005 at 19:50:09 (CET)
Comment: Carrie uses the term "fan club" in conjunction with CPC, and just to avoid
misunderstandings, CPC and APC are not the same. "Celebrating Patsy
Cline, Inc." (CPC) and "Always Patsy Cline Fan Club" (APC) are two different
things, and APC is not "on trial" here. /Per
Well gang. I was at a used bookstore today in downtown Asheville, NC and came
across this old coffee table book called "True Quotes by True Stars on True Life",
and GUESS who was on page 21 (that's right, as in January 21, 1957) - our lady
Patsy Cline. It was under the chapter entitled "On Achieving Stardom..."
And it so fittingly reads:
"Here's to those who wish me well, cause those who don't will burn in hell"
- Patsy Cline, music legend
I love that. And it came along at such a fitting time, too. Read 'em and weep, CPC.
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Tuesday, December 20, 2005 at 09:33:15 (CET)
All I have to say further on the subject is POOR TASTE!! CPC hasn't even began
to feel the brunt of this yet and ultimately will come to regret the decision
THEY made...soon.
To deny us a reason is a HUGE slap in the face......
Are they so ignorant to not consider who has given up their time, encouragement
& financial support so they could take those SEATS on the board?
Obviously not........
Alan Cofer <DAlanCofer@yahoo.com>
Tennessee - Tuesday, December 20, 2005 at 08:35:49 (CET)
Bernard, you are right. People should be concerned about things that have been
leant to them. And, for that matter, they should think long and hard before
lending anything else. The leadership and skill are gone from that group.
I've no idea what will happen next.
They will now determine their own fate, and have no one to blame but themselves.
It is unfortunate, but true.
Jared, I'm with Mark on saying that your one statement sums it all up.
After 40 years, love endures. My pals, that's what this is about for us. Not egos,
not money, not politics, not glory. Just plain love.
You all know that from reading these pages as well as the others on websites all
over the world, that Patsy has been an inspiration to all of us. THIS is why she
lives on. There is something about her; her story, her heart, her grit, her raw
talent, that touches us, each in a different way.
Nothing can change that. The people who don't get that are the real losers. They
lose out in terms of their souls. They miss the message, they miss the love. Patsy
speaks to us on a soul level, and dammit, we have an obligation to do what is right
for her.
She has changed each of our lives in some way, otherwise, we wouldn't be here.
Jared, you nailed it, honey. It is that love, and that love alone that will get
us to where we need to be, and that is to take it upon ourselves to create a
lasting legacy that will span Patsy's whole life, and pay her the respect that
she so rightfully deserves.
Thank you for your kind words of support as well, Jared. This has been painful,
but I'd do it again in a minute, because it was the right thing to do. The right
thing isn't always easy, but that's ok. What lesson did we learn from Ginny Hensley?
She had it hard, but made it, and so will we.
Focus on the Future for Patsy!!!
Theresa Shalaby <gerdbaby@yahoo.com>
Nashville, TN USA - Monday, December 19, 2005 at 21:21:43 (CET)
Mark,
Thanks for your kind words.
"I always did like a man who knew how to start off a conversation good." - Jessica Lange, "Sweet Dreams".
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Monday, December 19, 2005 at 21:18:50 (CET)
Mark's comments about items leant to CPC has triggered a thought. How many other
items have been leant by people who are un-aware of the situation. They may be
un-aware that their precious items, their irreplaceable items, are being lost or
are not being looked after. Un-aware that they may never see them again anywhere.
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Sharnbrook, UK - Saturday, December 17, 2005 at 19:36:50 (CET)
Jared,
You wrote:
"The true legacy is that she has remained so dear to so many of us for more than
forty years."
That single statement made me cry. You're truely a Patsifan because it's obvious
to anyone from that statement that you "get it".
I loved the graphic you created and I think we should have it printed on t-shirts.
Of course I really don't want to waste any more time or energy on CPC. That group
is dead to me. As soon as they return ALL of my collection that was on loan to them
I'll be through with them. At this time I've received only three quarters of it back
and I'm still waiting for the last package to arrive. Of course they seem to have
mysteriously "lost" two items. Both of which are irreplaceable. It makes me wonder
how well they are taking care of the blouses and dresses and the all important crown,
Patsy's white hat. I certainly wouldn't trust them with anyone's collection. In an
email sent to me by a CPC board member my things along with some other things that
they were leant were sitting in boxes that were sitting in a small pool of water in
a closet somewhere. You have to wonder how they are treating other personal
collections that were loaned to them, much less Patsy's costumes.
Either way, CPC is dead and I appreciate your sarcasm even if it flew over my head
the first time. You're a class act.
Mark Willix <markwillix@gmail.com>
Rockmart, GA 30153 - Saturday, December 17, 2005 at 18:00:10 (CET)
Very well done site.
Vernon Chism <sherlockholmes@email.com>
Lexington, Ky USA - Saturday, December 17, 2005 at 17:27:05 (CET)
Comment: Thanks, Vern! /Per
Hi Per and all!
In regard to my last post: I didn't realize that my sarcasm wasn't as clear as it
should've been. I know what its like to give your all to an organization/company and
then have your assistant pulled into your seat - and willingly stay there. So my
apologies for the miscommunication.
I also created a graphic to not only voice mine and so many others opinion on Mr.
Martin's removal from the board, but also out of my admiration for Theresa Shalaby
and others who've taken a stand against CPC's recent way of conducting business.
I've sent this graphic to all of the main Patsy site webmasters (thank you all for
your feedback, as well as Mr. Martin & Ms. Shalaby), many other loyal Patsy fans
and CPC itself. I just felt that, when it comes to a song lyric or taking a stand
for what is right - as she did so many times in her own life - NOBODY does it better
than Patsy Cline.
Everyone keep the faith. The true legacy is that she has remained so dear to so
many of us for more than forty years.
Your fellow Hoss,
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@aol.com>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Saturday, December 17, 2005 at 07:57:52 (CET)
Oh, yeah... In addition to the post below, a fellow fan and fine friend suggested
that when ya email Tandy, tell him specifically that you are a Patsy Cline Fan,
so that she will rise to the top of the reunion!
Stand up and be heard, fans.
Focus on the Future for Patsy.
Theresa Shalaby <gerdbaby@yahoo.com>
Nashville, TN USA - Friday, December 16, 2005 at 18:27:46 (CET)
Hey Gang,
Here is something that is very cool, and very positive, as we move forward into the
post CPC era:
Tandy Rice, former President of the CMA, leading Talent personality, and probably the
most highly respected music industry professional in Nashville, is interested in
starting a "Family Reunion" Event of Classic Country Music fans in Nashville. Write
Tandy Rice and express interest in possibly attending the inaugural event... He is
sort of testing the waters to see what the interest in this might be.
PLEASE email Tandy Rice at: tandyrice@aol.com and
just tell him:
"Tandy, I am interested in learning more about a possible Country Music Classics
Family Reunion in Nashville."
Too cool, huh? Imagine what a forum it would be for Patsy and her fans!!
Theresa Shalaby <gerdbaby@yahoo.com>
Nashville, TN USA - Friday, December 16, 2005 at 00:02:07 (CET)
Bernard and Jimmy, you guys are absolutely correct. These websites are indeed,
living museums, labors of love. We can all come to enjoy Patsy and her legacy.
It is sad that a group that relied so heavily upon these sites for free press and
support has so cavalierly disregarded the people behind these pages. That's ok
though, because no matter what, Patsy lives on, and so do good, real efforts for her.
People who have the legacy at heart remain still, and will move on from this mess.
I thank each and every one of you webmasters out there, of sites both large and small.
You keep Patsy's light shining, and you don't hurt others in the process, or serve
half-baked agendas that cause problems.
From all that I have ever read or heard about Patsy, she was a loyal person, one
who stood up for what was right, and for what she believed in. I admire that, and
bet that she would tip her hat to all of you who have had the courage to speak up
during these difficult times.
Looking forward to better days for Patsy,
Theresa Shalaby <gerdbaby@yahoo.com>
Nashville, TN USA - Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 22:05:00 (CET)
Bernard, Well said. You are right about the Internet museums. I had never looked
at them as museums. But when look to see what they have to offer you can find a
lot of it in a museum. Heads to the webmasters!
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Jimmy Walker <patsyfan1@aol.com>
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 15:49:19 (CET)
Dear Per, can someone please tell me how I can contact Mel Dick. I would like to
have his telephone number, email address or something. Thanks a whole lot you are
always there when I need you. God Bless, Mark Ison
Mark Ison <mark121275@hotmail.com>
Metamora, In United States - Tuesday, December 13, 2005 at 22:34:52 (CET)
There are already at least five museums to Patsy Cline. This forum and web site
is one of them. Living museums built and maintained by people who really care
for Patsy Cline and her fans. These are freely available via the internet to all
who wish to visit and not a museum designed to be an attraction to pull tourists
into a town which once dis-owned Patsy Cline. Each one of these online museums
has done more for Patsy Cline than the efforts of CPC (pass the mouth wash please)
will ever achieve.
Bernard Green
Sharnbrook, UK - Tuesday, December 13, 2005 at 00:36:39 (CET)
Jared,
You should take note before you lend support to the new CPC leadership (a term
I use very loosely in this situation) that the current President of CPC is in
fact one of the two board members who led the effort to have Philip Martin
removed without seeking proper board approval. The current President along with
the current Secretary/Tresaurer were the responsible parties that succeded in
removing the best leader we've ever had in Patsyland. I wouldn't be so quick
to heap praise on these individuals. "There are two sides to every story" and
what I've just explained is the other side that CPC isn't telling you.
Mark Willix <markwillix@gmail.com>
Rockmart, GA 30153 - Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 21:17:52 (CET)
Congratulations are in order to Judy Sue on her nomination to CPC. While I'm
disappointed that her nomintation comes in the midst of shady, unexplained and
secretive business by CPC board members, I am glad to see that they have some
credibility left in who they chose to fill a pair of shoes that many agree
cannot be filled. I wish her leadership the best and hope that her nomintaion
not only delivers fast results for Patsy Cline's legacy, but integrity to CPC.
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 08:53:34 (CET)
CPC has made a very bad decision in removing Philip Martin as president. When
pressed for details they said, "There are two sides to every story, and you're
only hearing one side." When asked to present "their side" they replied, "We
will issue a statement after our December 7th meeting." After their December
7th meeting, they issued a statement announcing a new president. The statement
had not one word of "explanation" or "their side of the story." I personally
have sent several e-mails to board members and to the new president asking why
they haven't yet provided "their side" of the story. I have been met with the
same silence that Theresa Shalaby, a former board member experienced when she
asked the very same questions at the November 30th board meeting that resulted
in Mr. Martin's removal.
I find their "statement" to be stunningly ARROGANT in its failure to address
the "why" that everyone is seeking, and for not even mentioning Mr. Martin or
what he accomplished for the organization, and especially for asking for
continued support from Patsy Cline fans. They don't deserve any support. They
feel they are not accountable to the fans, so why should the fans support them?
They have lost all credibility and I am certain that they will retreat to the
moribund organization that they were prior to Mr. Martin.
I don't know who you're "hearing" from, Virginia, but you're certainly hearing
something different from most other folks. Those who think all of this will
have no effect and that CPC will continue on the path blazed by Philip Martin
during the past year are seriously deluding themselves.
Guy Cesario <guyc@patsyclinetribute.com>
Chicago, IL - Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 02:56:40 (CET)
Hi Everyone...
From what I hear, CPC is in full-swing and there should be no worries that
Patsy will not be celebrated as she should be! Have a happy holiday!
KMBT <km_timberlake@hotmail.com>
Virginia - Friday, December 09, 2005 at 22:42:41 (CET)
"Life is like a mountain railroad. We must make the run sucessful".
So why take the locomotive off the train when it was climbing so well
and so fast for the first time.
Bernard Green <syemon.es@btinternet.com>
Sharnbrook, UK - Friday, December 09, 2005 at 21:39:40 (CET)
Well.
Now that I have read and re-read CPC's "Official Press Release", I find myself
wondering what to say or think. I was elected to the board of CPC in 2002 as a
fan liaison. My job was to bridge the gap between fans, board members, and other
fan related groups. I worked hard to do that, and have always believed that I
was accountable to you, the fans, supporters, and friends of Patsy Cline and
her family.
I am sorry that I still have no answers for you. I am sorry that things have
turned out this way, and I am sorry for Patsy and her family. I think they've
seen enough garbage for a life-time. High hopes, smashed by egos, politics, and
people whose souls are so small that they cannot be found with an atomic microscope.
Looks like a new/old day has dawned at CPC, with a new/old leader, of the old
guard who has done little in the past decade. Once again, my friends, I am very
sorry to see this happen, but will stand by what is right.
My condolences to all of us. My apologies to Julie and her family.
Let CPC go on its way, and we, with the support, passion, and momentum, will
go ours. Each of us needs to decide what to do with this information, on his
or her own.
Good Luck in Winchester.
Theresa Shalaby,
Former Board Member,
CPC
Theresa Shalaby <gerdbaby@yahoo.com>
Nashville, TN USA - Friday, December 09, 2005 at 21:17:17 (CET)
Hi Per and all!
I hope all is well with all of you. When I read the news of Philip's
departure from CPC, I was absolutely floored. Until his leadership, I know
that myself and many other Patsy Cline fans had never even heard of CPC
unless one typed in www.PatsyCline.com and were redirected to a website that
should hardly be official. I personally would like to commend him on a job
well done. I appreciate his dedication to Patsy Cline and to her lasting
legacy. It saddens and angers me that this seemingly hasty decision makes
as much sense as taking the gas out of a running car that hardly ever moved
before. I know that many fans that I stay in regular contact with became
involved with CPC because of its recent tremendous efforts under this
leadership. When you have something good, you just don't let it go and I
hope that CPC hasn't lost the fuel that it lacked for so long. As great as
Patsy Cline was and as much as she is loved by millions worldwide, she
deserved this a long time ago. Forty more years is way too long to wait and
I pray this doesn't take this great organization back to square one. As always,
Per, thanks for your contribution to Patsy's legacy and to so many others who
give so much of your time to ensuring that her legacy endures.
Jared Vaughn <JaredVaughn81@AOL.COM>
Spartanburg, SC USA - Thursday, December 08, 2005 at 03:19:18 (CET)
I love.........
J.
Jessica Diniz <je.lo@ig.com.br>
São Paulo, SP Brazil - Wednesday, December 07, 2005 at 11:26:57 (CET)
Patsy, you are the greatest singer I have ever heard...
Ahmed <ahmedlaaa@yahoo.co.uk>
Tuesday, December 06, 2005 at 04:23:24 (CET)
On Nov. 30 I sent this mail to Philip Martin:
---
Hello Philip,
It was with deep sadness that I put up your last "CPC E-News" on my
News page... Of course, I am extremely pleased by the news about
Patsy's home, but I am equally shocked about this call for your
removal from the CPC board... This is darn right ridiculous, if you
ask me... What triggered this?
I want you to know that you are always welcome to use my site to
express your thoughts and feelings about all this, and of course,
about Patsy and her continuing legacy!
Even though I am in Sweden, I realize what a great job you have done
during these months. Many thanks for that!
My best wishes to you and your wife!
Happy Holidays!
Sincerely,
Per Jonsson
---
And Philip's reply:
---
Per:
Thank you for your very kind words. I have felt your support from across
the Atlantic always throughout my tenure. You are a big motivator as to
why I worked so diligently to accomplish so very much in nine
months... much more than CPC had accomplished in 12 years!! I had even
greater aspirations going forward as I launched a multi-faceted strategic
plan... it is all just so sad and disappointing.
Philip
---
Per Jonsson <crazy_dreams@hotmail.com>
Örnsköldsvik, Sweden - Friday, December 2, 2005 at 09:00:12 (CET)
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